Comments on: Barack Obama Endorses Faith Based Initiatives http://andrewclapper.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/barack-obama-endorses-faith-based-initiatives/ Andrew Clapper discusses his views on many different topics. Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:32:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Icelander http://andrewclapper.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/barack-obama-endorses-faith-based-initiatives/#comment-53 Icelander Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:33:47 +0000 http://andrewclapper.wordpress.com/?p=32#comment-53 Something that I think most people don't know is that any program that receives federal funding is <b>not</b> allowed to pray. Period. I learned this July 19th, 2008 edition of Freethought Radio (<a href="http://ffrf.org/radio/podcast/" rel="nofollow">Available here</a>). So I wonder if all these religious people know that should they receive funding for their, say, soup kitchen, that they're not allowed to say any prayers. I donated to Obama during the primaries, holding my nose at his religiosity. But now when they call me, I'll tell them I'd love to donate... to the Secular Coalition of America. And the Electronic Frontier Foundation. And the Mars Society. But not one red cent to their campaign. Something that I think most people don’t know is that any program that receives federal funding is not allowed to pray. Period. I learned this July 19th, 2008 edition of Freethought Radio (Available here).

So I wonder if all these religious people know that should they receive funding for their, say, soup kitchen, that they’re not allowed to say any prayers.

I donated to Obama during the primaries, holding my nose at his religiosity. But now when they call me, I’ll tell them I’d love to donate… to the Secular Coalition of America. And the Electronic Frontier Foundation. And the Mars Society. But not one red cent to their campaign.

]]> By: Larro http://andrewclapper.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/barack-obama-endorses-faith-based-initiatives/#comment-51 Larro Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:52:33 +0000 http://andrewclapper.wordpress.com/?p=32#comment-51 I work for a REAL (secular) non-profit organization and can't understand why in the hell more can not be geared toward helping these organizations out. We are a large agency and have recently been seeing cuts in our funding and programs. Ending poverty is in our charter. Seems a lot of the money is being funneled to the Faith-based rather than the Community-based parties in question. Since Bush took office and instituted this initiative it seems (I could be wrong) that there have been a lot of building and massive expansion of churches around here in my community. Churches and religious institutions are exempt from anti-discrimination statutes. I don't see how they can better serve the poor and down-trodden when we both know they can not in good conscience do so without THE ulterior motive. Great post by the way. I work for a REAL (secular) non-profit organization and can’t understand why in the hell more can not be geared toward helping these organizations out. We are a large agency and have recently been seeing cuts in our funding and programs. Ending poverty is in our charter.

Seems a lot of the money is being funneled to the Faith-based rather than the Community-based parties in question.

Since Bush took office and instituted this initiative it seems (I could be wrong) that there have been a lot of building and massive expansion of churches around here in my community.

Churches and religious institutions are exempt from anti-discrimination statutes. I don’t see how they can better serve the poor and down-trodden when we both know they can not in good conscience do so without THE ulterior motive.

Great post by the way.

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